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Comparative Diagram 1 - selected examples of the mm-6-2 imprint, colored examples are Gallica enlargements
from bindings BnF, RLR, B182 and BnF, RLR, B-183.


Now we are going to look at the second binding on the Bibliotheque Nationale list of bindings they show as being those of Derome le jeune. On the page describing this binding they go into a long song and dance about how this is a Derome binding, but when we download high resolution images of the imprints what do we find??? The same (identical) imprints that we detailed on the last page that were supposed to be from an undentified workshop! Here we find not only identical tools but tools that I show as being those of the MM binder. Here is proof that the Bibliotheque Nationale do not know what they are doing.


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When you read their reasons for attributing this binding to Derome you will see that they count heavily, on the opinion of a certain Giles Barber, I can tell you that he has made the mistake of referring to past experts instead of doing his own research, many of them, the greatest French experts have been fooled by this binder as I have detailed on a number of pages but more specifically in regards to Derome on this page (http://www.cyclopaedia.org/unidentified/mm-binder-2.html)


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Comparative Diagram 2 - mm-70a and mm-70b imprints.
colored examples are Gallica enlargements from bindings BnF, RlR, B-182 and BnF, RLR, B-183.

In Comparative Diagrams I and 2, I show identical imprints from the two BnF bindings BnF, RLR, B-182 and BnF, RLR, B-183. I can produce many more comparative diagrams from these binding to demonstrate that they were decorated with the same tools, and if the first binding is from an unidentified workshop then so must be the second. Neither of which were made by Derome le jeune. Of the six Derome examples shown by the Bibliotheque Nationale 4 are not by Derome, this is a poor batting average so far on the next page we will examine another in the hopes of finding at last a trace of Derome's tools. But here I want to make a point, and that is, that when you are examining bindings of this sort, large dentelles with a multitude of different imprints, you are not struggling to identify one or two imprints, All the imprints or most if you don't recognize them all, should be clearly those of the binder in question, it is a mistake to isolate just one imprint and say it is possibly the right kind! Below in Comparative Diagram 3, I show the differences between Derome's imprint and this BnF, RLR, B-182 example, more proof that this supposed Derome example presented by the BnF is not a Derome (booksellers beware)!


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Comparative Diagram 3 - Derome le jeune imprint dj-60 vs MM and Dubuisson examples





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see below links to past work





the last fanfare






Atelier I B 31/10/2014





Icons of the Renaissance 06/02/2014





Atelier au trefle 22/12/2014 most recent page




Atelier Royal 1518 - 1524 09/11/2014





Unraveling G. D. Hobson's book on fanfares 27/11/2014





16c fanfare on eBay 23/11/2014




another Padeloup binding on eBay 07/12/2014



Rare Padeloup binding on eBay 15/11/2014



Pierre-Paul Dubuisson's work attributed to Derone le jeune 23/10/2014 (unfinished work now finished)


Pierre-Paul Dubuisson's work attributed to Douceur 22/10/2014 (an under contruction page finished at last)


Louis-Marie Michon - the 1956 Disaster 19/10/2014 (an unfinished page finished at last)


Louis XII Dolphins motif 03/02/2014


Aristophanes Binder 1543 02/02/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - Atlas Catalan 12/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - Linacre bindings 05/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier c. 1500-1520


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - Chronology 16/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - Inventory - binding No. 29 19/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - Inventory - binding No. 39 19/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - The mysterious disappearance of François Tissard d'Amboise 23/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - The Simon Vostre fiasco 18/01/2014


L'Atelier Simon Vostre 1486-1521 01/01/2014


L'Atelier de Pierre Roffet 1511-1533 - TOOL CATALOGUE 26/01/2014


L'Atelier de Pierre Roffet 1511-1533 27/12/2013


Pierre Roffet - fleur-de-lis binder 28/12/2013


Fleur-de-lis Binder 1525-1540 27/11/2013


Du Saix Master 02/12/2013


Atelier Étienne Roffet 1538-1549 12/12/2013


Atelier Jean Picard 1538-1547


Imitative Binder c.1540 15/12/2013


Salel Binder 1540 17/11/2013


Atelier Ruette 1606-1669 INVENTORY


Atelier Macé Ruette 1606-1644


Atelier du Maitre Doreur 1622-1638


Atelier Antoine Ruette 1638-1669


Atelier des Caumartin 1652-1715


Atelier de Charenton 1670-1685


Atelier Luc-Antoine Boyet 1685-1733


Atelier Antoine-Michel Padeloup. dit Le Jeune 1685-1758


Atelier Louis Douceur 1721-1769


Atelier Pierre-Paul Dubuisson 1746-1762


Atelier Nicolas-Denis Derome, dit Derome le Jeune 1761-1788


Atelier Jean-Pierre Jubert, 1771-1793?


Atelier MM binder, 1770-179-?






A word of Caution

Even experts are sometimes wrong, before you spend thousands on a book, please do your own research! Just because I say a certain binding can be attributed to le Maitre isn't any kind of guarantee, don't take my word for it, go a step further and get your own proof. In these pages I have provided you with a way of doing just that.

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