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French Decorative Bookbinding - Eighteenth Century

Derome le jeune - W.Cat.673 and W.Cat.42

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Now I would like to return to the binding that we looked at on page 7 W.Cat.42 . We pointed out that Barber mistakenly believed that the owner of this book died in 1753 which meant that the binding had to have been made before that date, and therefore had to be the work of J.-A. Derome, from there he when on to attribute a wide variety of bindings to J.-A. Derome. However it turns out that the W.Cat.42 binding could have been made as late as 1771 or 1772 the year when the owner passed away. I am going to present here some evidence to support such a theory. But first I want to address Barber's statement in his information about W.Cat.673. "The roll on the turn-in (ROLL 75) as well as the corner ornament (DCR 6) and FR 7, 10, 18 on the covers are the same as those used, a generation earlier, by Padeloup and J.-A. Derome (see W.Cat.42)" This is categorically incorrect, for one Padeloup never had or used such tools, and secondly there is absolutely no evidence that J.-A. Derome ever used such tools. W.Cat.42 was not decorated by J.-A. Derome in 1770!


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Comparative Diagram 1 - W.Cat.673 corner vs various imprints.

In Comparative Diagram 1, I have isolated the various imprints found on W.Cat673, I show my original catalogue numbers for these imprints as well as Barber's catalogue numbers. One of my reasons for making a catalogue of these imprints was to be able to identify them by the binder, thus the prefix dj (derome le jeune) as well as catalogue the various types. One cannot get around the fact that if you want to discuss any particular individual tool you needed a unique name or number for it. Only a few researchers have managed to codify some of the earlier 16th century tools while the 18th century tools have remained in the dark. One of a number of failures that I see with Barber's system is that none of his catalogue numbers give a reference to a specific binder, and secondly he does not give each of the paired imprints a unique name, therefore they will be hard to describe individually in research papers.


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Comparative Diagram 2 - Barber - W.Cat.673 imprints.

In Comparative Diagram 2, I show the specific tools that Barber has mentioned. These are certainly the tools of Derome le jeune, however even in Barber's notes he only mentions Derome in relation to DCR 6, Fortunately he does not mention Padeloup here, these tools could be considered copies of Dubuisson's tools and it is the Dubuisson tools that are found on bindings signed by Padeloup, that Barber has mistakenly mixed with Derome le jeune tools.


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Comparative Diagram 3 - Barber ROLL 75 vs Latin 9484 roulette (inner dentelle).

In Comparative Diagram 3 we see ROLL 75 that Barber has mentioned as part of his Padeloup, J.-A, Derome theory. We see in Barber's notes for this tool that he only found it on W.Cat.42 and W.Cat.673 (shown at the top of this page). However I have found another example of this roulette and you can see it online at the BnF with Gallica. (see it below)

Nowhere in the BnF description of this item do we see any mention of this dentelle binding or anything about who made it, fortunately I can tell you who made it, Derome's main finisher, Jean-Pierre Jubert, who continued to decorate bindings for him right up to Derome's last days.

We have studied this Derome le jeune roulette previously (click here to see it) and arranged it on another page showing an assortment of Derome roulettes (click here to see this). After an intensive study of these roulettes my conclusion was that dj-R-3 (ROLL 75) was a favorite of Derome le jeune that appears to have been employed from the mid 1760's to the mid 1770's. On another page we have detailed a Derome le jeune roulette (dj-R-18) that is similar to the one that appears on the Latin 9484 (click here to see it). These roulettes begin to appear on signed Derome bindings in the early part of the 80's. Thus we see that Barber's claim that W.Cat.42 was bound and decorated by J.-A. Derome in 1747 is an unlikely one. Further to this, if Barber has only one other binding example of ROLL 75 (W.Cat.673) then I must conclude that Barber did not encounter many real Derome le jeune bindings, and if he has not recognized PAL 33 as belonging to J.-A. Derome then he has never seen an actual J.-A. Derome binding, even though describing several other bindings that he attributes to him. (click here to see an actual J.-A. Derome binding).


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Atelier I B 31/10/2014





Icons of the Renaissance 06/02/2014





Atelier au trefle 22/12/2014




Atelier Royal 1518 - 1524 09/11/2014





Unraveling G. D. Hobson's book on fanfares 27/11/2014





16c fanfare on eBay 23/11/2014




another Padeloup binding on eBay 07/12/2014


the last Padeloup fanfare?


Rare Padeloup binding on eBay 15/11/2014



Pierre-Paul Dubuisson's work attributed to Derone le jeune 23/10/2014 (unfinished work now finished)


Pierre-Paul Dubuisson's work attributed to Douceur 22/10/2014 (an under contruction page finished at last)


Louis-Marie Michon - the 1956 Disaster 19/10/2014 (an unfinished page finished at last)


Louis XII Dolphins motif 03/02/2014


Aristophanes Binder 1543 02/02/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - Atlas Catalan 12/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - Linacre bindings 05/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier c. 1500-1520


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - Chronology 16/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - Inventory - binding No. 29 19/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - Inventory - binding No. 39 19/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - The mysterious disappearance of François Tissard d'Amboise 23/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - The Simon Vostre fiasco 18/01/2014


L'Atelier Simon Vostre 1486-1521 01/01/2014


L'Atelier de Pierre Roffet 1511-1533 - TOOL CATALOGUE 26/01/2014


L'Atelier de Pierre Roffet 1511-1533 27/12/2013


Pierre Roffet - fleur-de-lis binder 28/12/2013


Fleur-de-lis Binder 1525-1540 27/11/2013


Du Saix Master 02/12/2013


Atelier Étienne Roffet 1538-1549 12/12/2013


Atelier Jean Picard 1538-1547


Imitative Binder c.1540 15/12/2013


Salel Binder 1540 17/11/2013


Atelier Ruette 1606-1669 INVENTORY


Atelier Macé Ruette 1606-1644


Atelier du Maitre Doreur 1622-1638


Atelier Antoine Ruette 1638-1669


Atelier des Caumartin 1652-1715


Atelier de Charenton 1670-1685


Atelier Luc-Antoine Boyet 1685-1733


Atelier Antoine-Michel Padeloup. dit Le Jeune 1685-1758


Atelier Louis Douceur 1721-1769


Atelier Pierre-Paul Dubuisson 1746-1762


Atelier Nicolas-Denis Derome, dit Derome le Jeune 1761-1788


Atelier Jean-Pierre Jubert, 1771-1793?


Atelier MM binder, 1770-179-?





A word of Caution

Even experts are sometimes wrong, before you spend thousands on a book, please do your own research! Just because I say a certain binding can be attributed to le Maitre isn't any kind of guarantee, don't take my word for it, go a step further and get your own proof. In these pages I have provided you with a way of doing just that.

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