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French Decorative Bookbinding - Eighteenth Century

Douceur imitator revealed


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The reproduction shown above is from the 1955 auction catalogue LIVRES ILLUSTRÉS DU XVIIIE SIÈCLEParis, France: Librairie Giraud-Badin. On page 7 of this series of pages I reproduded a small text from Giles Barber who stated that Douceur had special tool (the jestor's head) made for the 1751 Erasmus Eloge de la Folie, so we might be forgiven in suspecting that the Eloge de la Folie binding shown above with a Jestor's head might actually be Douceur's binding.


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Comparative Diagram 1 - 42 Erasmus imprint vs Douceur imprint d-43a-3 and 114 imitation


The first thing I wanted to try is comparing the d-43a3 imprint that we looked at on the previous page with what appeared to be a similar imprint on this 1751 Erasmus binding. In Comparative Diagram 1, we find a surprising result, it appears as though this example and the 114 imitation example might actually be the same imprint. Is this another imitation? Another test was quickly devised as we could see another set of imprints that looked like the d-17pair. First however I wanted to be sure that the 42 reproduction was the right size. I needed to find some other examples of this 1751 publication where exact dimensions are given, searching with Google for Erasme l'eloge de la folie 1751 I stumbled upon an amazing discovery in the Bibliotheque nationale de France digital reproductions, Gallica. (click here to see it) a digitized complete copy of this work with all the plates that is in an Dubuisson dentelle binding! The BnF that cannot be bothered to show you this binding as a Dubuisson example! If you search for Pierre-Paul Dubuission bindings in the BnF they only show you one binding and that is a plaque binding. Of all the amazing bindings that Dubuisson made they show only one plaque, does this smack of a conspiracy to you too? Anyway we will look at this Dubuisson binding on another page. Further to this the BnF does not give you any dimensions for this binding, you have to out smart them to find out, first you download the complete image of the binding, it arrives as a low resolution image that is obviously not at any kind of convenient scale, then you download a high resolution detail from the binding that is at a 400dpi resolution, then you resize the binding to match the 400dpi detail, thus you get a measurement of about 24 cm high, this corresponds with another source which is Sotheby's where a copy of this was up for auction in 2014 (click here to see this) and they give the dimensions as (243 x 176 mm).



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Comparative Diagram 2 - 1751 Erasmus imprint vs Douceur imprint d-17a.


Thus we come to Comparative Diagram 2, where we see that these imprints are not the same, this is not likely to be a Douceur, but lets test something else, below I show an enlarged detail which is anyway very impressive.



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Comparative Diagram 3 - 1751 Erasmus detail with Jestor's head


In Comparative Diagram 3 we recognize a wreath with crossed C-scrolls as described by Barber, he has catalogued a number of these imprints and sure enough we find that he has catalogued this one .



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Comparative Diagram 4 - Barber's FL 156 imprint vs 1751 Erasmus imprint.


In Comparative Diagram 4, we see that these imprints are very close with only a slight difference in size, could this be a binding by R.F. Fetil? Lets look at some of his tools (click here to see them)



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Comparative Diagram 5 - 1751 Erasmus imprint vs R. F. Fetil imprint rf-6.


In Comparative Diagram 5, we discover to our disappointment that these imprints only look the same at a distance, if this is not a Fetil probably the rest are not either.



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Comparative Diagram 5 - 1751 Erasmus imprint vs Barber DCR 17


In Comparative Diagram 6, we are finally getting somewhere, these imprints are a match and they can be traced to Barber's W.Cat 235. and 422. Below we see Barber's references to these bindings and the tools that he catalogued from them, these are not Douceur tools nor Douceur bindings but we have now a strong reference.



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Comparative Diagram 6 - Giles Barber's Waddeston Bindings List G.


Finally we see that we have already discovered who made these imitation bindings, he goes by the name of Plumet...



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see below links to previous work






Atelier I B 31/10/2014





Icons of the Renaissance 06/02/2014





Atelier au trefle 22/12/2014




Atelier Royal 1518 - 1524 09/11/2014





Unraveling G. D. Hobson's book on fanfares 27/11/2014





16c fanfare on eBay 23/11/2014




another Padeloup binding on eBay 07/12/2014


the last Padeloup fanfare?


Rare Padeloup binding on eBay 15/11/2014



Pierre-Paul Dubuisson's work attributed to Derone le jeune 23/10/2014 (unfinished work now finished)


Pierre-Paul Dubuisson's work attributed to Douceur 22/10/2014 (an under contruction page finished at last)


Louis-Marie Michon - the 1956 Disaster 19/10/2014 (an unfinished page finished at last)


Louis XII Dolphins motif 03/02/2014


Aristophanes Binder 1543 02/02/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - Atlas Catalan 12/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - Linacre bindings 05/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier c. 1500-1520


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - Chronology 16/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - Inventory - binding No. 29 19/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - Inventory - binding No. 39 19/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - The mysterious disappearance of François Tissard d'Amboise 23/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - The Simon Vostre fiasco 18/01/2014


L'Atelier Simon Vostre 1486-1521 01/01/2014


L'Atelier de Pierre Roffet 1511-1533 - TOOL CATALOGUE 26/01/2014


L'Atelier de Pierre Roffet 1511-1533 27/12/2013


Pierre Roffet - fleur-de-lis binder 28/12/2013


Fleur-de-lis Binder 1525-1540 27/11/2013


Du Saix Master 02/12/2013


Atelier Étienne Roffet 1538-1549 12/12/2013


Atelier Jean Picard 1538-1547


Imitative Binder c.1540 15/12/2013


Salel Binder 1540 17/11/2013


Atelier Ruette 1606-1669 INVENTORY


Atelier Macé Ruette 1606-1644


Atelier du Maitre Doreur 1622-1638


Atelier Antoine Ruette 1638-1669


Atelier des Caumartin 1652-1715


Atelier de Charenton 1670-1685


Atelier Luc-Antoine Boyet 1685-1733


Atelier Antoine-Michel Padeloup. dit Le Jeune 1685-1758


Atelier Louis Douceur 1721-1769


Atelier Pierre-Paul Dubuisson 1746-1762


Atelier Nicolas-Denis Derome, dit Derome le Jeune 1761-1788


Atelier Jean-Pierre Jubert, 1771-1793?


Atelier MM binder, 1770-179-?





A word of Caution

Even experts are sometimes wrong, before you spend thousands on a book, please do your own research! Just because I say a certain binding can be attributed to le Maitre isn't any kind of guarantee, don't take my word for it, go a step further and get your own proof. In these pages I have provided you with a way of doing just that.

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